I may be wrong. I have been wrong many times before. But you need to give me reasons and evidence that the world is just what we imagine it to be; that we make reality as opposed to being a participant in it who can uncover truths about it and shape it but not absolutely control it. And you’ve completely dodged the question of how my “boring” imagining of it can be wrong if the world is what I imagine it to be. Maybe your boring is my exciting. If my imagination creates my reality that you find it dull is hardly relevant. It seems to me, the world just is what it is for each us in your telling and there is no systemic way to evaluate the relative imaginings of any individual or group either on a scale of true to false or exciting to sleep inducing. If I am wrong about that, fine. Just tell me what that system is so I can evaluate it, please. You’re the one advocating it so the burden isn’t on me to just take your word for it. Make your case. Do people who believe cyanide is good for them find themselves immune to the effects the rest of us experience, or at least believe we would experience if we ingested it? Do smokers who genuinely believe in or imagine they live in a world in which smoking and lung cancer aren’t linked experience lung cancer at the same or lower rate than non-smokers? If so how do we know if not through scientific research into the outcomes for people who happily sprinkle poison on their cereal each morning or blissfully burn through a pack or two each day? You’re making claims about reality too here. That’s okay. We all do it. But you have provided no evidence to support the claim that reality is what we say it is or even any means for testing whether or not that might be true. Indeed, you seem to dismiss any suggestion of a testing method as a viable means of determining the truth of your claims as circular then assert without any hint of irony the truth of your claim yet again. Ultimately, I admit, all arguments are circular but some circles are larger and more inclusive than others and any circle that insists upon its own truth without any evidence is just a singularity. Even at the quantum level we don’t see the kind of strong causal link between observer and outcome you seem to think we do (skeptics saw the same outcomes as those persuaded by the findings, for example, so the outcome did not correlate with the belief or attitude of the observer).

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