Just to be clear, I wasn’t arguing that God is nature/within nature. Nor was I arguing that a god(s) does or does not exist. Merely that if there is a god it must be a natural phenomenon (a product of nature). This is because nothing that exists can in any sense be unnatural. Nature cannot be transcended because nature consists of everything that exists, and in this case you’re arguing that god exists. Ergo, god must be natural.

As for things that are invisible to our senses being spiritual (or supernatural), I would argue this is an extremely broad definition of spiritual. Most that is invisible to our senses is nonetheless detectable, and most of what exists in the universe is not detectable to our senses, at least not directly. Consider carbon monoxide, which we cannot smell, see, or otherwise detect with our own bodily senses. Yet homes now commonly come equipped with carbon monoxide detectors. I wouldn’t say carbon monoxide is “spiritual” given it is deadly in sufficient concentration.

With regard to the assertion that atoms “must” contain some essence of God, I have to ask why must they? Simply not knowing/understanding why or how atoms (or anything else) works is not evidence that the object “must” have a divine power source to make it go. It’s merely evidence of our ignorance. Whatever causes atoms to function as they do must be a natural force, even if it is one that we are only just beginning to understand. But even if we never figure it out, it does not follow that there will be something transcendent about the process. As I say, even god, if one exists, must be a natural phenomenon.

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